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Ref Watch: Newcastle penalty against Tottenham analysed as Dermot Gallagher questions why referee noticed grappling but 'ignored' it

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Ref Watch's Dermot Gallagher has questioned why referee Thomas Bramall noticed grappling between Rodrigo Bentancur and Dan Burn, but then "ignored" it and needed VAR to help award a penalty.

In their draw at St James' Park, Newcastle were controversially awarded a spot-kick after the Tottenham midfielder was penalised for pulling Burn to the floor, with questions over whether it was a foul.

Speaking on a special midweek edition of Ref Watch, Dermot explained: "I think it raises a number of issues.

"Just before the corner came in, Thomas Bramall went to the two players and said to Bentancur 'you're facing the wrong way'.

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"He's told them. Now if I was that referee, when I go back to my position, that's who I'd be focused on.

"Clubs were warned about players not facing the ball, which he never is. There's no doubt about it and he runs the risk of giving a penalty away.

"The referee is focused on those players - you have to think that because he's made that decision.

"So you would think he's seen that and thinks it's not a penalty. The VAR then looks and says 'is it a clear and obvious error.'

"They're grappling and he [Bentancur] is not looking at the ball. The referee clears it, the VAR says no and the referee goes to the screen, where he sees something he didn't see in the match.

"That's a mystery to me - why he identifies that and then ignores it."

Former Premier League striker Jay Bothroyd also believed it was a penalty, adding: "When I initially saw this, I thought it could be a bit soft. The more I see it, the more I agree. It's a definite penalty.

"When you learn how to play football, you learn how to mark. Your shoulders are open so you can see, you can feel and you can glance at the same time.

"Dan Burn has initially tried to run there and then he's tried to duck around the other side. Bentancur has turned around because he knows he's in a bad decision and he's trying to block him. That's why I think he's given the penalty."

There were plenty of other incidents analysed on Ref Watch too, including a five-and-a-half-minute VAR check at Molineux...

Wolves 0-1 Nottingham Forest

INCIDENT: Nottingham Forest had a goal disallowed at Wolves. As a corner came in, Igor Jesus headed home but keep your eye on the player just in front of the goalkeeper.

The goal was initially given but VAR Rob Jones checked if Dan Ndoye was in an offside position and interfering with the eyeline of the goalkeeper.

The process took over five minutes to review by VAR.

DERMOT SAYS: "It was [the right decision], but too convoluted.

"You could clear this up so quickly because you see the shot from behind the goal, it's clearly in the goalkeeper's line of vision.

"You see it from the side, it's clearly in the goalkeeper's view and impacting because it's so close. He's clearly offside.

"The assistant should know he's in an offside position. Whether he knows he's in an offside position is a different matter.

"As an official, you have your headsets. You pool your resources. Say to the referee: 'he's in an offside position.' The referee can see where he is. He can say 'he's in front of the goalkeeper.'

"That takes five seconds. Flag goes up, whistle goes, free-kick taken."

BOTHROYD SAYS: "I looked at that in full speed and straight away, I could see that was offside. It's easy to see.

"I don't know why that takes five and a half minutes. I don't know what they're looking at. I can't wrap my head around it.

"The linesman is the funny thing for me because what is he really looking at? It looks like he has laser focus down the line but he's missed something so obvious.

"Does he not want to take responsibility to make his own decision? What're you waiting for?

"Referees are relying on VAR. It seems like they don't want to be wrong and don't want to be called out, just in case they do make a bad decision."

Liverpool 1-1 Sunderland

INCIDENT: Liverpool's Dominik Szoboszlai appeared to push Sunderland defender Dan Ballard in the back in the area but nothing was given.

DERMOT SAYS: "What happens is Ballard is not going to get the ball. He feels a touch on his back and just goes down. It also proves that it is a full-contact game and making contact with a player isn't necessarily a foul."

JAY BOTHROYD: "He realises he is ahead of Szoboszlai. When he's ahead of him, he tries to back in to initiate contact.

"It's not a case of Ballard was standing and Szoboszlai pushes him. They are both moving into that area. Ballard realises he's in front. He stops and plants his legs and Szoboszlai goes into the back of him."

Brighton 3-4 Aston Villa

INCIDENT: In the lead-up to Brighton's first goal, they were awarded a corner but replays show it shouldn't have been given.

Matty Cash headed the ball, but it appeared to make contact with the Brighton player before going out of play. Brighton then scored from the corner through Jan Paul van Hecke.

There was then a VAR check for handball for the goal itself, but not for the corner and the goal stood.

DERMOT SAYS: "It's interesting because I don't see it as judge and jury. I see it as a mindset.

"When I was a referee, one of the things you do is take a little bit of time. You'll be amazed, if you wait one second, how the landscape changes and you can gather a little bit more information to make a decision.

"The clue there was the Brighton player. He gives himself up. These are all the clues you are looking for."

Should VAR rules change to decide on corners?

BOTHROYD SAYS: "You can't change rules during the season. I genuinely think big rule changes can happen, but you should be able to make modifications during the season.

"That's a modification that we can make. So far this season, there have been about four or five occasions where a corner has been given, they score from it, and it's not the correct decision. I think it needs to be looked it but, how far do you go?

"Do you then go to throw-ins? Now, we're playing in an era where there's a long throw. If that throw goes the wrong way and someone throws it in the box and they score from it, do you look at it?"

DERMOT SAYS: "You can't change the rules or protocols without an experiment. Usually if you're going to do it, you usually do so in a youth league or a league in another country.

"There isn't enough time to do that before the World Cup, so now they're talking about trialling at the World Cup.

"It comes out of massive fear. Imagine two teams are playing in the World Cup final, five minutes to go. That incident happens, a goal is scored and a team win or lose the World Cup on that. It will never be forgotten or forgiven."

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Arsenal keep rolling in an efficient and relentless manner.

Mikel Arteta's men are now unbeaten in 17 matches in all competitions, their longest streak under the Spaniard, and they're doing it with a defensive base that is as sturdy as anything in Europe.

In fact, Arsenal boast the most clean sheets (7) and joint-fewest defeats (1) across all competitions in Europe's major leagues - elite numbers that tell you precisely where their authority lies.

And Brentford are exactly the sort of team Arsenal tend to keep at arm's length.

Arsenal and under 3.5 goals has landed in nine of their last 15 Premier League outings. That's the pattern. Professional wins.

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Arsenal continue to manage several injury concerns, with centre-back William Saliba having missed the Chelsea game along with forward Leandro Trossard.

“He (Saliba) had a little niggle, so I think it’s going to be a matter of days, so let’s see if he is able to be there tomorrow,” said Arteta, who is still without Brazil defender Gabriel Magalhaes because of a thigh problem he sustained on international duty.

“The ankle one (earlier in the season) was really random and a very unlucky action that kept him out for a few weeks. He tried at Anfield, he wasn’t comfortable and he had to stay away.

“This one as well, very bizarre, but hopefully it will be a matter of days.”

Good afternoon...

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Man City are breathing down the neck of the Gunners after their 5-4 win at Fulham on Tuesday night.

Can Arsenal respond and restore their five-point advantage? Brentford will be looking to have something to say about that as they look to try and climb into the top half of the table.

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Andrews: We'll fancy ourselves against Arsenal

Brentford boss Keith Andrews wants his team to "embrace" the challenge of Premier League leaders Arsenal - and that his team will "fancy" themselves to cause an upset.

“It’s pretty obvious that it’s going to be a difficult task, but it’s also a task that we need to embrace,” he said about the team with a five-point lead at the top of the Premier League.

“They’re a tough nut to crack, for sure. They don’t concede too many and don’t concede too many opportunities, but we’re a team that quite fancies ourselves in how we can affect the opposition and make it quite uncomfortable for them at times. That’s what we’ll be hoping to do on Wednesday night.”

Arsenal and Brentford have several links between them. Former Bees players Christian Norgaard and David Raya could line up against their former sides.

The Gunners have also hired two former Brentford set piece coaches in Andreas Georgson - now at Spurs under Thomas Frank - as well as current Arsenal set piece guru Nicolas Jover.

Asked about the set piece battle, Andrews - a former set piece coach of course - said: “There will always be a lot made of that: the set-piece battle, with two teams who are invariably pretty good at that aspect of the game.

“In most games, set-pieces play a part to different levels. I think this will be a game where it plays a very big part, and we hope we can come out on the right side of it.”

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Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta:

On William Saliba: "I'm not going to be able to help you much today because we have a training session later on. Until that happens, we don't know what's going to happen with the doubts that we have.

"He had a little niggle, but I think it will be a matter of days, let's see if he can be available tomorrow."

Leandro Trossard: "A matter of days too."

Kai Havertz: "A matter of weeks. Let's see how he evolves in the next few weeks. He's doing really well, doing stuff on the pitch. I think he needs some time."

Gabriel: "Which Gabi? We have a lot. Big Gabi? He's doing really well, but he needs weeks as well."

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Newcastle 2-2 Tottenham: Jamie Redknapp slams lack of consistency after VAR awards Magpies controversial penalty

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Jamie Redknapp has slammed the decision to award Newcastle a controversial late penalty in their 2-2 draw with Tottenham.

A double from Spurs captain Cristian Romero salvaged a point for the under pressure Thomas Frank, but it was the decision to penalise Rodrigo Bentancur for a tussle with Dan Burn that became a flashpoint late in the game.

The pair were battling with one another at a corner which saw Burn tumble over the Spurs midfielder without any complaints. Play was waved on by onfield official Thomas Bramall, only for VAR to recommend a pitchside review.

The decision was overturned, allowing Anthony Gordon to put the hosts back in front from the penalty spot with four minutes to go.

"Look at Dan Burn, he's not even complaining," Redknapp said.

"He gets up to make a gesture, but he's not once got up with any aggression to say to the referee 'what are you doing?'

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"Is he holding him? Is he impeding him? Yes, possibly. We see this week in and week out.

"Where's the consistency? We see this game in and game out in the Premier League and they don't get given.

"If that's going to be the threshold and penalties are going to be given for that, no problem. But we want consistency, and that isn't.

"They are having a definite wrestle, but it's both of them. Dan's leaning forward trying to be elaborate.

"I don't see that as a penalty as I've seen a lot worse that aren't given."

Richards: 'I don't understand'

The rules for a holding offence state that there has to be 'sustained and/impactful holding on an opponent' or a 'clear impact on the opponent's opportunity to play the ball.'

A player will also be judged on whether or not they are looking at the ball, which has at times become a staple of how Thoms Frank's side defend set-pieces to stop opponents from getting the run on them.

Sky Sports' Micah Richards, though, was of the opinion that Bentacur's defending did not meet the threshold to be penalised.

"In terms of not looking at the ball, that meets the criteria. When we had the discussions with the Premier League, that was something they were going to take into consideration," Richards said.

"There's not enough holding there. Dan Burn is too strong for him.

"Bentancur holds him for a little while, makes sure he can't get a run on him, and then Burn is all over Bentancur.

"I don't understand. The referee made a really good decision in not giving it. It goes to VAR, puts doubt in his mind and then he's going to have to give it.

"He's holding, but it's not sustained holding. It's not enough. It shouldn't be a penalty."

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Tottenham boss Thomas Frank:

"It was an absolute mistake from the VAR.

"For me that is never a penalty, there are ten of those a game.

"Even speaking to some from Newcastle (they) don't think it's a penalty and we need consistency.

"I think the referee's call on the pitch, he nailed it, and VAR can only be if it's clear and obvious."

Newcastle boss Eddie Howe:

"I've seen it again, the defender doesn't look at the ball, he's just focused on Dan and Dan goes down, so I can see why it was given."

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Newcastle 2-2 Tottenham: Cristian Romero's double rescues point for Spurs to ease pressure on Thomas Frank

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Cristian Romero's last-gasp overhead kick rescued Tottenham, who twice fell behind, a dramatic point with a 2-2 draw at Newcastle to help ease the pressure on boss Thomas Frank.

In what was a frantic finale at St James' Park, Anthony Gordon's controversial penalty (86) looked to be condemning Spurs to a fourth straight defeat in all competitions.

However, Romero (78), who had earlier cancelled out Bruno Guimaraes' opener (71), popped up with his second equaliser of the night in stoppage time (90+5).

His scuffed overhead kick, just Spurs' second shot on target of the night, trickled through a crowded penalty area and past Aaron Ramsdale to seal a share of the spoils, which quietens the unrest at Tottenham, who are still winless in their last five Premier League outings, down for now.

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"The performance showed fantastic mentality and character," Spurs boss Frank told Sky Sports.

"Every team needs that. It is fair to say it has been a tough week, fourth game in 10 days, third away game. St James' Park is always a difficult place to come. Last 60 minutes I am very happy with that performance overall. The ability to react to setbacks was great."

He added: "We suffered the first 25 minutes. Sometimes you need to suffer, after that we were very brave, calm on the ball going forward. There's a lot to love about the performance."

Romero to the rescue!

Newcastle started quickly and controlled the first half, enjoying the better chances, but it wasn't until the 71st minute that they broke the deadlock.

Spurs had frustrated the hosts and Howe was forced into bringing his captain Guimaraes, who started on the bench, into the action, and he found the breakthrough for his side. Gordon's cross was flicked into the path of Guimaraes, who hit a brilliant finish into the bottom corner.

Following a triple substitution, with Mathys Tel, Richarlison and Xavi Simons introduced, Spurs suddenly levelled seven minutes later when Kudus' cross was flicked home by the head of the diving Romero.

A chaotic final 10 minutes saw Newcastle awarded a penalty after VAR intervention when Rodrigo Bentancur grappled with Dan Burn at the back post from a corner and Gordon made no mistake from the spot to fire Newcastle back in front in the 86th minute.

The drama wasn't over, however, when Aaron Ramsdale's punch from a Spurs corner reached Romero and the skipper's acrobatic effort bounced through the box and into the bottom corner at the death to leave both sides still in the bottom half of the Premier League.

'Spurs showed real character'

Former Tottenham midfielder Jamie Redknapp thought Frank's side showed real character in batting back for a draw at St James' Park, singling out Romero's leadership.

"Spurs showed tremendous character because it hasn't been going their way," he told Sky Sports.

"They weren't perfect by any stretch but they had a captain and a leader who grabbed that game by the scruff of the neck. Two great goals, certainly the first one was a world-class diving header, the second one a shinaldo!

"It was exactly what Spurs needed. They got back into the game and showed real character.

"It was always going to be difficult at Newcastle, especially the way Eddie Howe's side played at Everton. They had to fight, they had to show some character and they had to show some desire. Romer came to the fore.

"Spurs now have something to build on, but there's no point in producing battling display like that and then not show up against Brentford. They now have to go on the front foot a bit more. If Frank wants to get more of a bond with the Spurs fans, they need to see some attacking football.

"But it is a good result. It will just dampen the noise around the manager but they have to capitalise against Brentford at the weekend."

Howe: We weren't at our best

Newcastle boss Howe admitted Newcastle were not at their best against Tottenham.

Howe told Sky Sports: "I don't think it was us at our best today but we battled into a position we wanted with a few minutes left and we just couldn't defend that corner at the end.

"We are disappointed with the first goal, it was a standard cross and we haven't defended it well enough.

"Second one, we didn't deal with the first contact then didn't stop the overhead kick. Somehow it went in. It's a painful one for us to take. A disappointing feeling having worked so hard.

"Bruno's goal was an outstanding finish. He made a difference, his energy and enthusiasm and passion is always stand out for us. He made a big difference."

On the penalty award: "The big thing is the defender doesn't look at the ball at all, he's just looking at Dan. It's probably the right call."

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Same problems remain for Spurs

Tottenham showed character to twice come from behind against Newcastle, but the same problems remain for Thomas Frank's struggling side.

They've won just three of their last 14 games and had it not been for Cristian Romero's heroics, the pressure would have been ramped up ahead of Saturday's important home game against Brentford.

Frank made a bold call by benching centre-back Micky van de Ven, although it's at the other end of the pitch where the issues lie without Dominic Solanke, James Maddison and Dejan Kulusevski.

Romero's double were the only shots on target Spurs had at St James' Park, as they failed to register one in the first half for a fourth consecutive league game.

Spurs have scored 23 goals from 132 shots and 12.8 expected goals in the Premier League this season - the best shot conversion rate (17.4 per cent) and xG overperformance (+10.2) of any side - but it's unsustainable.

Frank badly needs a victory against his former club Brentford this weekend to ease the pressure and help win over some supporters at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

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Momentum dented for Newcastle

Frustration was the buzz word for Newcastle after they twice lost the lead against Spurs at St James' Park.

Both Eddie Howe and Bruno Guimaraes could not hide their disappointment as Newcastle threw away the chance to secure a third straight win in the Premier League and continue the momentum that was building.

Newcastle battled hard to get themsleves into a winning position, despite being far from their best against Spurs. However, slipping up when hitting the front has been a regular problem for Howe and his side so far this season.

No side has dropped more points from winning positions in the Premier League this season than Newcastle (11, level with Brentford), and it is proving costly.

Newcastle remain in the bottom half of the table down in 13th, but had they held on for victory, they could have moved as high as seventh.

It's something Howe is going to have to fix if Newcastle want to qualify for Europe again this season.

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Everton flying but key problem remains - even Moyes knows it

Jack Grealish's goal and Everton securing a third win in their last four games should rightly grab the headlines - but if they want to push on, they need to solve a glaring issue in the squad.

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Thierno Barry had two big chances to score on Tuesday night from inside the box but squandered both of them. In a game as tight as this was, at least one of those chances has to be taken.

"He is improving but as a No 9 you will be judged on goals, you have to score goals," said Toffees boss David Moyes after the game. He is aware of the problem.

As things stand, Everton are winning games without the focal point of their attack contributing - but a deflected shot won't always curl in to secure the win.

A striker with experience in the Premier League should be the target in January.

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Bournemouth at risk of spiralling out of control

Andoni Iraola is right to be concerned about the form of his Bournemouth side.

The winless run has now been extended and within a blink of an eye, it could stretch to seven.

The Cherries host Chelsea in their next fixture before travelling to Old Trafford to face Manchester United after that.

After suffering defeat to Everton, Sunderland, Aston Villa and Man City - as well as failing to beat 17th-placed West Ham, both confidence and belief are low.

Iraola criticised the lack of quality and bravery from his players on the ball during this fixture. If they don't address those fundamentals in their game before 3pm on Saturday, this slump could quickly spiral out of control.

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City fix their scoring problem - but others remain

Man City swung from one extreme to the other as they ended a run of scoring no more than a single goal in five consecutive away games to plundering five past Fulham in 90 minutes.

That wasn't the only contrast at Craven Cottage. City's form for the first 60 minutes was superb, enough for Pep Guardiola to joke journalists had already prepared their "City are back!" headlines ahead of their near-collapse in the last half hour.

It was as much a mentality issue as a personnel one. City remain easier to play through without Rodri but that did not force them to sit so deep as to invite Alex Iwobi's strike for 5-2, and then twice fail to pick up Samuel Chukwueze at loose balls.

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The mentality Josko Gvardiol showed to clear what was inches away from a Josh King equaliser off his own line could've come in useful for Pep and his side much earlier on.

Guardiola said his side will learn from this result and they have to. It's unlikely they will be involved in another frantic nine-goal game any time soon, but their clearly fragile confidence after blowing a two-goal lead against Leeds and now almost a four-goal advantage looks a world away from the predictably watertight City of even two years ago.

This is not the same team but the mentality must get somewhere closer to it, or their hopes of chasing down an Arsenal side displaying the characteristics City need will prove uncatchable.

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Fulham must make the most of Chukwueze form before AFCON

Samuel Chukwueze's form means he must start for Fulham. The winger, on loan from AC Milan, will be away at the African Cup of Nations this month but his importance has grown in Marco Silva's side.

With two goals and three assists in three games, all in just one start across 153 minutes of Premier League football, Chukwueze is a force waiting to be fully unleashed at Craven Cottage.

"He's already making it," Marco Silva said of his impact after the game.

"He is showing his quality, he has quality on the right and the left. He has the ability to make the right decisions as well, he's getting better and better.

"He's getting better and better. He makes the right decisions, but we have to manage him.

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