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Arsenal 4-1 Tottenham: What Thomas Frank and Vicario said

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Tottenham manager Thomas Frank speaking to BBC Match of the Day: "Very difficult afternoon. Bad performance. It's extremely painful to stand here after that game. We can only apologise to the fans for not performing better. I was very confident we could be competitive today. We weren't. That we need to look at with a cool and calm head and work out what we need to change.

"We didn't succeed to be aggressive enough, and we didn't win the duels.

"One thing for sure is that in hindsight, everything is much easier. I take always the full responsibility for the performances. That I need to look back to. We changed things at half-time, it was a tiny bit better, but the game was already over at 3-0. It doesn't matter what system we play if we don't win our duals.

"No matter how painful it is, and of course, this is the most painful defeat of the season, there are things we can take out of this game."

Goalkeeper Guglielmo Vicario to Sky Sports: "A very bad night for us. First of all, we have to apologise to the people that support us every day. They expected us to fight, and today we didn't fight. That's not negotiable to do in football in this level.

"It's a tough night, a very bad defeat, but we have to stick together. We have a big night on Wednesday but we need to stick together. Tonight we didn't show the things we are normally capable of.

"The emotions are high, but we need cool heads and apologise to the people that support us and have travelled today.

"I think we waited too much to get into the game. We were too passive. The game plan we prepared was different. Today we didn't fight. We have to apologise first of all for this. But we have to stick together and move on because on Wednesday we have a big night."

On Arsenal's second goal: "I think the way the game went it wouldn't have changed anything. There were three people in front of me so of course they impacted me. But we didn't lose the game for that."

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Tottenham analysis: Painful day for Thomas Frank who is battling to keep fans on side

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It has been a mixed start for Thomas Frank at Tottenham whose conservative style of play since taking over means he has a fight on his hands to win over fans - and this result will have damaged that relationship further.

His team came into this game unbeaten from home in the league, but never looked like getting a positive result against their rivals.

Tottenham have not clicked in attack this season and average fewer than 10 shots per match, the third-lowest figure in the top flight.

That trend continued into this match with Spurs not having a shot in the first half, the second time that has happened this season (after their 1-0 home loss to Bournemouth in August).

Frank appeared to accept he had got his initial tactical plan wrong by making a half-time change to his team's shape - but Eberechi Eze's goal seconds after the restart effectively sealed Spurs' fate.

Tottenham are ninth in the league, but they are only three points below the Champions League places.

However, the Spurs manager is going to have to turn things around quickly before supporters decide they no longer want to watch his team put defensive solidity before creativity.

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Arsenal v Tottenham: How players rated in Premier League north London derby

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Arsenal beat Tottenham 4-1 to move six points clear at the top of the Premier League.

How did the players perform?

David Raya: 5.5/10

A virtual spectator until Richarlison produced one of the goals of the season.

Jurrien Timber: 7.5

Shook off a midweek injury scare to add to his growing repertoire of excellent performances.

William Saliba: 7

Did not miss his central defensive partner Gabriel a jot. Cruised through the game.

Piero Hincapie: 7

Excellent on his first Premier League start. Will be key for Arsenal in injured Gabriel's absence.

Ricardo Calafiori: 7

Some doubt over his inclusion but manager Mikel Arteta will be happy his left-back was available.

Martin Zubimendi: 8

His reputation grows with every game. Knits it all together for Arsenal.

Declan Rice: 8

Built for occasions like these. Energy in abundance, with the temperament to boot.

Bukayo Saka: 7

The captain petrified Tottenham's left-hand side with his pace and power. A constant threat.

Eberechi Eze: 9.5

The stuff dreams are made of. A magical hat-trick in his first north London derby.

Mikel Merino: 7.5

Unlocked Tottenham with an excellent pass to set up Trossard's opener. Tireless work.

Leandro Trossard: 8

Continues to be Arsenal's Mr Reliable. Deserved his goal. Proving to be an important player for Arteta.

Noni Madueke (Trossard 78): 6

Ethan Nwaneri (Merino 88), Cristhian Mosquera (Hincapie 88), Myles Lewis-Skelly (Calafiori 90)

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Arsenal vs Tottenham: Confirmed team news

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Mikel Arteta names Piero Hincapie at centre back in place of the injured Gabriel Magalhaes. Mikel Merino continues upfront in place of Viktor Gyokeres who is also out injured.

There is positive news as Noni Madueke and Gabriel Martinelli are back on the bench after injury.

Arsenal starting XI: Raya, Timber, Saliba, Hincapie, Calafiori, Zubimendi, Rice, Eze, Saka, Trossard, Merino

Subs: Arrizabalaga, White, Mosquera, Martinelli, Norgaard, Madueke, Nwaneri, Lewis-Skelly, Dowman

Thomas Frank reverts to a back three for the match with Arsenal. Kevin Danso comes in at centre back while Mohammed Kudus starts.

Tottenham starting XI: Vicario, Spence, Romero, Danso, Van de Ven, Udogie, Palhinha, Bentancur, Richarlison, Odobert, Kudus

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Arsenal vs Tottenham predictions: Chris Sutton on north London derby

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Tottenham have got the best away record in the Premier League, with four wins and one draw so far, but this is their biggest test yet.

While Spurs have picked up some good results, I have still been disappointed with their frontline, and their attacking players have not really connected.

That is going to be the issue for them at Emirates Stadium, and the big difference with Arsenal is that you always feel like they are going to score. They are going to give a few teams a walloping, and Spurs could be one of them.

I started off thinking that this game was going to be reasonably close but, the more I think about it, the more I feel like Arsenal will win comfortably.

The Gunners have some issues too, with Gabriel out injured. He has been such a colossal player for them but Cristhian Mosquera can come into their defence, and I don't see it affecting them too much.

Sutton's prediction: 3-0

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Arsenal vs Tottenham quiz: Name these north London derby players

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The north London derby takes place at 16:30 GMT on Sunday, with Arsenal hoping to extend their lead at the top and Tottenham eyeing a return to the top four.

To mark the match we thought we'd test your knowledge on these Arsenal and Spurs stars, some are recognisable - others not so much. Good luck!

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Tony Pulis column: 'Clean sheets matter' - why Arsenal v Spurs might be a tight affair

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One of the most fascinating things for me when I watch modern-day football is that it feels like no-one values defending properly any more.

Over the past few years, the Premier League has developed a more possession-based strategy and, individually and collectively, defending has without doubt been restricted by our obsession to play football 'the right way'.

That's why I think what Mikel Arteta has done at Arsenal is brilliant, because although their attacking play is still amazing, he has looked at the stats that really matter and seen that all good teams are built from the back.

The way Tottenham have changed under Thomas Frank this season is based on the same way of thinking, of finding a balance between scoring goals and stopping them, and both coaches understand the importance of a team's structure in and out of possession.

That means Sunday might not see the kind of high-scoring game we have been used to when these two teams have met in recent years - the fixture has averaged more than three goals per game over the past five seasons - but it is a north London derby so anything can happen!

Good defending is not something which fans always appreciate anyway, but you only have to look at the top of the table to see how important it is to be solid at the back - before this weekend's games, the top six teams had all only conceded a goal a game or less.

I appreciate that stat because when I started out in management a million years ago, I worked off the basis that a clean sheet was worth twice as much as scoring a goal.

Those stats were a reality for Stoke in our difficult first three seasons in the Premier League, when we were looking to establish ourselves in the top flight.

Between 2008-09 and 2010-11 we kept 35 clean sheets - 12 in our first season, 14 in our second and nine in our third - which earned us a total of 83 points, or an average of 2.37 points per game.

Looking at it that way, the real value of a clean sheet for us was roughly the same as scoring three goals in a game... and nothing has changed in the Premier League now, although the value of scoring one or two goals in a game has dropped.

You'd think more people would look at this data and see how important defending is, but instead, there has been a focus on a certain style of play which I believe is linked to the higher number of goals we are seeing in the Premier League compared to 10 or 15 years ago.

The rise of possession football has been a major influence on the English game, and has had an enormous effect on young coaches, teams and players.

They have been brainwashed into thinking it's not just 'the right way' to play, it's also 'the only way' - but there are many pitfalls to this approach and my priorities were always very different.

Winning football matches is about being better at all facets of the game, but my principles were that both final thirds were the areas that mattered the most.

Modern-day football has moved away somewhat from the traditional English style of play when I was in the game, of direct forward passes which encouraged more final third entries. It produced less midfield play, but more direct action in both boxes.

Instead, possession football has become an obsession, where teams are prepared to risk playing out from the back to accommodate the perception of playing football 'the right way'.

Defenders now spend more time passing the ball to one another than ever before. In fact, defending in some ways has taken a massive step backwards, as more and more coaches concentrate solely on possession.

Ball-playing defenders passing their way out from the back are nothing new - the best I ever saw were Mark Lawrenson and Alan Hansen in the great Liverpool team of the 1980s.

I was a player at that time and a defender too - although not a ball-playing one! I recognised that although Lawrenson and Hansen were brilliant on the ball, their defensive attributes were also top drawer.

If you have players like those two, then playing in your own half is fine. If not, you are asking for trouble, as the data shows.

As a manager, I had some absolutely fantastic defenders at all of my clubs and most of them were competent in possession.

But I also had wonderful ball players like Matthew Etherington, Chris Brunt and Yannick Bolasie so I wanted people to give them the ball as early as possible, because they could play and make things happen.

I wanted us to play through the pitch, whether it was with short passes or long passes, rather than keeping the ball deep and bringing teams on to us.

Tottenham under Frank seem to have the same approach, which is very different to the way they played under Ange Postecoglou last season. They were seen to be gung-ho, and very rarely was there a balance between scoring goals and conceding them.

Now they are playing in their own half less, and conceding fewer chances and goals. The two things are not a coincidence as far as I am concerned.

Looking at the stats so far, Frank has certainly added a more pragmatic approach, which has propelled them into a very encouraging position in the table.

All good teams will undoubtedly have a solid base like that, which enables them to collect clean sheets and produces a platform to be successful.

Frank's big task will be to achieve the same balance between defence and attack which Arsenal have now. Yet I'm convinced that given the same time Arteta has been at their fierce rivals, he will succeed in finding it.

Arsenal have found stability with Arteta, who has been in charge since 2019 and produced a team that is now capable of playing some brilliant free-flowing football when in possession of the ball, but are so solid defensively that teams find it extremely difficult to break them down.

Football has many fundamentals but, very simply, as a team you have to put the ball in one goal and keep it out of the other!

I watch a lot of post-match analysis where pundits proclaim after the event what is right with the winning team and wrong with the losing one.

They decipher games with a fine-tooth comb when the truth is that they are decided either by defensive mistakes or good play in the final third, both of which produce goal-scoring opportunities.

There are more of those than ever - the total of Premier League goals scored went up slightly between 2010 and 2020 but has risen more dramatically in the past five years.

Aligned with that has been a staggering increase in the number of goals conceded in a particular way, from teams losing possession in their own half of the pitch.

As I've explained, I did not want my teams to risk that by trying to play square passes at the back, but they still had to be able to defend well when it happened.

At the top level, players have the ability to counter-attack at great speed so it is really important that, when you are in possession, you do not allow teams to break quickly through you with two or three-pass moves when they win the ball back.

Most players who worked with me, from my humble beginnings in the lower divisions to the Premier League, will testify of my determination for my teams to be completely structured, with or without the ball.

I enjoyed coaching 11 versus 11 on the training field, and I am sure I have driven a lot of my players mad with my focus on team shape.

Every player I worked with would understand that their role was vital in enabling the team to be a team and within those hours of constantly working on our organisation, one area I specifically focused on was being well set up behind our attacking play.

It was always emphasised that, if we were set up right, we could regain possession - but also stop the opposition counter-attacking us which, as the stats show, can cause you great damage.

As I talked about in a previous column, goals from set-pieces are also on the rise, so common sense should push coaches towards realising that as well as needing a defensive strategy against counter-attacking play, they need a way of stopping goals from corners, free-kicks and throw-ins.

That rarely seems to happen, though. It amazes me that today's set-piece coach is lauded for goals scored, yet never criticised for set-play goals conceded by his team.

It is something that Arsenal and Tottenham have both addressed this season, but for Arsenal it is still a weakness when you look at the proportion of goals they concede from these situations.

Watching teams defend set-plays today is at times laughable, with many defending players not even looking at the ball that's being delivered.

In almost every game I watch, referees could and should award penalties for fouls committed against the attacking players, and the whole principles of defending a one-v-one situation with balls into the box has been lost.

There seems a lack of individual knowledge and, in many cases, courage from the defensive player to put themselves at risk by challenging a forward, and I am afraid that is paramount to so many goals being conceded at set-plays.

Arsenal's defensive record is second to none in the Premier League this season but it is not just when you are trying to win things where being solid is important.

In the past two campaigns, the three promoted teams went straight back down - with the three worst defensive records.

This season, Sunderland are joint fourth-best for goals against and are fourth. Burnley are 18th, while only three teams have conceded more than Leeds, and look where they both are in the table.

You can be sure that the teams with the worst defensive records will be near the bottom come next May - and the stats above show that finding the balance between attack and defence is absolutely vital, whether you are going for the title or fighting relegation.

Tony Pulis was speaking to BBC Sport's Chris Bevan.

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Tottenham: How Thomas Frank's side silence home fans in away games

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Arsenal v Tottenham: Key stats and talking points

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Arsenal begin a testing run of fixtures by hosting arch rivals Tottenham, who are unbeaten away from home in the league. BBC Sport examines some of the key themes before Sunday's 198th north London derby.

The Gunners' 10-match winning streak ended with a 2-2 draw at Sunderland but they are still in a commanding position – top of the Premier League and boasting a perfect record in the Champions League.

But this is the start of a tough week for Mikel Arteta's side, with the derby followed by Wednesday's home game against Bayern Munich – arguably Europe's most in-form team – before another match versus London opposition, away to Chelsea.

They will have to negotiate this period without key centre-back Gabriel, who is likely to be out for at least a month after being injured playing for Brazil against Senegal at Emirates Stadium last weekend.

Arsenal have previously suffered when the first-choice partnership of Gabriel and William Saliba has been disrupted, but they invested in quality cover this summer. Cristhian Mosquera, Spain Under-21s captain, arrived from Valencia, while Ecuador international Piero Hincapie joined on loan from Bayer Leverkusen.

Even so, Gabriel's absence is significant. Arsenal have won 64% of the Premier League games he has played in since arriving five years ago, compared to 40% without him.

He is also a potent set-piece threat, scoring 11 goals in the past two years – including the only goal in last season's win at Spurs.

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Arsenal vs Tottenham LIVE: Premier League score, stats & updates from North London Derby

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Arsenal have won five of their last six Premier League games against Tottenham (D1), including the last three in a row. It’s their longest winning run against Spurs since a five game stretch between January 1987 and January 1989.

Tottenham have lost seven of their last nine Premier League games against Arsenal (W1 D1), as many defeats as they’d suffered in their previous 25 north London derbies (W9 D9).

Arsenal have lost just one of their last 32 Premier League home games against Tottenham (W19 D12), going down 3-2 in November 2010.

Arsenal have scored in each of their last 26 Premier League home games against Tottenham, netting at least twice in each of the last eight. It’s their longest home scoring streak against an opponent in the competition, while only against Leicester have they had a longer run scoring 2+ (9 between 1997-2016).

Arsenal have only conceded once in eight home games in all competitions this season, with Erling Haaland netting for Man City in a 1-1 draw in September. The Gunners have won their last five at the Emirates, last winning six in a row without conceding between April and September 2008.

Tottenham are the only side still unbeaten away from home in the Premier League this season (W4 D1). Indeed, Spurs have the joint-most points (13), the joint-most goals (12) and the fewest goals conceded (3) of any side on the road this term.

Arsenal have scored both more goals from set pieces (excluding penalties) both overall (10) and as a percentage (50%) than any other side in the Premier League this season. Meanwhile, no side have conceded fewer set piece goals than Spurs this season (2).

Spurs manager Thomas Frank won his first ever Premier League game in charge against Arsenal in August 2021 but is since winless in seven against the Gunners (D2 L5).

This will be the first Premier League north London derby without either Harry Kane or Son Heung-min appearing for Tottenham since a 1-1 draw at the Emirates Stadium in September 2014. Between them, Kane (14) and Son (8) are responsible for 27% of Spurs’ Premier League goals against Arsenal (22/82).

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