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Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Roma: Spurs break down in final seconds for Europa League draw

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Tottenham Hotspur dropped points Roma leveled the game in extra time to nab a point in the fifth fixtures of the Europa League group stage on Thursday.

Taking on a struggling Roma side — who hadn’t won away from home in eight months and hadn’t won a fixture since Oct. 31 — Spurs got the first goal in the first five minutes.

Winning an advantage after Heung-min Son was fouled on the left side of the pitch, the ball was played to the opposite side for Pedro Porro to deliver a low-driven ball into the middle of the box as Pape Sarr came running to the ball. Going 50/50 on the ball with Mats Hummels, Sarr got the first touch before being fouled in the box by Hummels.

Initially ruled no penalty, the head referee went to the monitor and denied that Sarr got the touch first before the foul and awarded Spurs a penalty kick. Son stepped up and buried his first penalty of the season by sending the Roma keeper the wrong way.

Roma responded well after the early mishap as a stretch in the early 20 minutes saw the Italian side level the game on a free kick header by Evan Ndicka. The free kick was awarded after Radu Dragusin shoved a Roma attacker while the two went for the ball.

Roma believed they had taken the lead a mere two minutes left after Paulo Dybala and Stephan El Shaarawy connected on a volley goal. But El Shaarawy was narrowly ruled offside before his terrific strike.

Both sides struggled at times to keep possession of the ball, and with Spurs needing to break Roma’s press, they did just so in the 34th minute on a great break.

Archie Gray recovered the ball well, led Sarr into the open field for a quick turn, and sprayed the ball down the left flank so that Dejan Kulusevksi could run upon and break with his favored left foot. Letting the break develop as Dominic Solanke and Brennan Johnson filled the flanks, Kulusevksi hit a low driven cross on his left for the streaking Johnson to arrive in front of the six for an open strike to beat the keeper near post.

Roma proved to be the better side in the second half as they fought until the final seconds to get that equalizer.

Roma had two goal chances from Artem Dovbyk called back as the Ukrainian striker was offside on his assist and narrowly offside on his strike that would have given Roma a 3-2 lead.

Spurs’ most significant chances came from Solanke missing a break earlier on a 5-on-2 break, a miss to James Maddison (as the striker went for a near-post strike), and a ball hitting the post.

Roma equalized with a late goal in 90+1 from Hummels as a defensive lapse off a corner kick and play in the box, allowed Hummels to sit back post and tap in a cross around the defense.

Spurs’ next game will be on Sunday as they host Fulham. Happy Thanksgiving, all, and sorry for missing a lot of details. Enjoy the holiday

Tottenham Hotspur vs AS Roma: Europa League game time, live blog, and how to watch online

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Fixture congestion time! We’re done with international breaks (for now) and it’s in with midweek matches. Today, it’s the Europa League as Tottenham Hotspur host AS Roma.

Roma are floundering somewhat under the leadership of none other than Claudio Ranieri (that’s right, the guy who somehow won Leicester City the Premier League), deep in midtable but with not even any impressive underlying stats to show for their efforts.

They come up against a Spurs side who will be desperate to prove that the weekend’s win against Manchester City was not just a flash in the pan, and who are hurting after the loss of their #1, Guglielmo Vicario to an ankle injury. That means Fraser Forster is almost guaranteed a start in goal (though don’t totally count out Brandon Austin), one of a number of likely rotations for this match.

This should be one Spurs take relatively comfortably - but they have made some of these ties look challenging. Let’s keep all 11 players on the pitch this time, maybe?

COYS!

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Live Blog

How to Watch

Tottenham Hotspur vs. AS Roma

Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, London, UK

Thursday, November 28, 2024

Time: 3:00 p.m. ET, 8:00 p.m. UK

TV: Not televised in USA; TNT Sports 1 (UK). Check international listings at livesoccertv.com

Streaming: Paramount+

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Tottenham Hotspur vs. Roma Preview: Not just gravy

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Saturday’s demolition at the Etihad was just the latest entry in the Tottenham Hotspur roller coaster, reminding all of the heights this club is capable of reaching. That win, of course, followed defeats to Ipswich and Galatasaray, which also remind everyone of just how low this club can go as well. What comes next is anyone’s guess, but a win Thursday would be certainly welcomed.

That is because Roma comes to London for the latest round of Europa League fixtures, representing Tottenham’s biggest hurdle left in the League Phase. A win would put Spurs in excellent shape for a bye in the Knockout Playoff; anything less threatens to keep that qualification in the balance and prevent some rest over the final couple contests. Just as important is simply keeping up the vibes after the weekend’s triumph (Guglielmo Vicario news aside).

Tottenham Hotspur (t-7th, 9pts) vs. Roma (t-19th, 5pts)

Date: Thursday, November 28

Time: 3:00 pm ET, 8:00 pm UK

Location: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, London

TV: Paramount+ (USA), TNT Sports 1 (UK)

Things are not great in Rome. A brutal start in Serie A sees the club down in 13th place, and a 1-2-1 start in the Europa League is not exactly how this competition was supposed to begin either. This led to Daniele De Rossi being sacked early on and Ivan Juric not lasting long after, resulting in Claudio Ranieri landing in charge.

Spurs have not faced Roma in a competitive match, which is strange given how many other Italian sides have made their way to North London. The last three instances of this happening were all in the Champions League, with Juventus and Milan knocking Tottenham out of the competition and Spurs splitting the Group Stage fixtures against Inter during that magical run.

Trotting forward

The inconsistency of Spurs’ season has many factors, though a running theme is struggling against low blocks vs. facing wide-open opponents. With Ranieri just recently appointed and trying to simply stop the bleeding, it stands to reason that Roma will look to be sound defensively, providing the home side with another challenge to unlock. I will no longer waste breath trying to predict lineups, but it does feel like Ange Postecoglou will have to include some creative pieces to build an attacking threat.

Meanwhile, Artem Dovbyk and Paulo Dybala (sigh) are the threats coming the other way, though in general Roma has found goals hard to come by. After Victor Osimhen’s obliteration of the backup Tottenham defense and Fraser Forster, I am a little apprehensive of Europe still, though the Ben Davies-Radu Dragusin pairing quieted the doubters against City. This will probably be a tricky contest, but I think Spurs supporters will be giving thanks when this one is done.

The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur news and links for Thursday, November 28

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good morning and happy thanksgiving!

Ahh what a lovely day. To wake up in late autumn, the crisp air, leaves on the ground. And already the streets smell of sweetly baked pies, savoury turkeys, buttery potatoes.

Tottenham Hotspur play their almost-annual Europa League Thursday Thanksgiving game (this time it’s Roma)

Oh what a lovely day!

(That Europa thing actually gives me reason to post this highlight video of Winks scoring against Ludogorets).

Share what you’ll be doing on Thanksgiving. Eating? Watching the game? Cooking? Watching The Diplomat? Working because it’s a regular Thursday?

Enjoying a shepherd’s/peasant’s pie? It is the hoddle’s favourite pie, after all.

For those of you going the NFL option, here are the times (ET):

You will notice that none of these games begin at 3pm, and hopefully the Bears-Lions game doesn’t drag on that long (who wants to watch that anyways?). And really, do you REALLY need pre-game commentary for Giants-Cowboys?

That should give you plenty time to tune into today’s Spurs-Roma game (3pm). It’s a very generous time slot for us. I will be wrestling for the television remote to turn this one on so we can watch Jose Mourinho’s Daniel De Rossi’s Ivan Juric’s Claudio Ranieri’s Roma.

Wherever you’re going, I wish you all a safe and festive day.

Fitzie’s track of the day: Eat That Chicken, by Charles Mingus

And now for your links:

From another SBNation page: Cowboys day-after thoughts following win over Commanders

Postecoglou: Spurs will play the same way even after Vicario injury

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Ange Postecoglou addressed the media today for the first time since Tottenham Hotpsur’s 4-0 win over Manchester City at the Etihad, and the subsequent ankle injury to keeper Guglielmo Vicario, which required surgery.

The injury to Vicario is a huge gut punch to a Spurs side that is coming off of what felt like a season defining victory over the four time defending Premier League champions. Now they face the prospect of months without their starting keeper, putting the fate of the team in the Thanksgiving turkey-sized hands of 37-year old Fraser Forster.

Postecoglou started by crediting the character of Vicario, who played 60 minutes on a broken ankle during the win, and his immediate reaction to Googly Elmo’s injury and surgery.

”A bit of a shock first of all. We saw he picked up an injury during the game. We saw at half-time but there was no doubt about him continuing. You kind of digest that. Post game he was sore but he played 60 minutes with a sore ankle. We will tape it up and go again.

“But, and I guess externally now people realize, it is a testament to him as a person. He is as tough as nails, as tough as they come. The fact he played at that level for 60 minutes with a fractured ankle was quite outstanding.

“When the shock off it wears off, you process he is going to be missing for a while. Knowing him, he will push the limits as to how long that is and you will get daily updates about that through his Instagram.

“Big blow, but for him personally I guess because he was having an outstanding season for us and really growing as a leader within the group. But we have dealt with setbacks before and we will deal with this.”

Forster is a very, very different player to Vicario, and it has made a lot of Spurs fans nervous about the prospects of playing so many matches without their starting keeper. Forster is a good shot stopper, but is decidedly less mobile, worse with the ball at his feet, and slow to get down to make saves. Postecoglou, however, tried to downplay any concerns that Spurs would need to radically adjust their tactics with Forster between the sticks.

“You will see the same Spurs you see every game mate. It’s about going out there trying to play our football and try to be the best we can be. Sometimes that doesn’t work out and it hasn’t worked out for us in a couple of games this year. We know that and it’s something we need to improve.

“At the same time, there has been more good than bad. If you are looking for likely outcomes, I would say good. We have had the flat spots that we are working through but I don’t discount the football we have played either. I think we have played some outstanding football. For me it is just about progress. I keep saying it, we are a better side than we were last year and we want to keep improving. If we keep improving then the areas where there are gaps we will slowly overcome.”

Ange also pushed back on the idea that Forster wouldn’t be comfortable with the way the club plays, noting that he’s been working with Spurs’ goalkeeping coach Rob Burch for the past year and a half.

“I think there is a misconception around that. I do want to play out from the back but don’t need my goalkeepers to be Maldini or Platini. In fact, the simpler they can keep it the better for me. I keep saying to the players, don’t pass it to the goalkeepers, they’ve got the gloves on, they’re the goalkeepers and you’re the player.

“The thing is setting it up so we give really simple solutions to our goalkeepers. It’s not about their technical ability because i you look at the way we play out from the back, and Joe’s a great example of that when he came to Celtic, it’s about them executing really simple passes that they do every day. They’re actually quite good at it, goalkeepers. All goalkeepers. It’s more about mindset. It’s more about them not thinking that what they’re doing is risky, because that’s what it comes down. It’s not a skill. I’m not asking them to pin 50 yarders. In fact, it’s harder when goalkeepers go long. It’s actually a harder skill for them to do. So I’m asking them to do short passes that they’re capable of.

“It’s more, like I said, the mindset of it. Just showing them that there’s no risk here. Don’t worry about the risk. The setup is there for you to execute. And I found that with Joe and other keepers I’ve had in the past where it was, ‘oh, he can’t play out from the back’, and of course he can. He’s a goalkeeper, he can pass the ball, that’s what they do. It’s just about having a structure which allows them to do it in the cleanest possible process. And changing their mindset.

“The only barrier to that is if the goalkeeper doesn’t feel comfortable doing it. Not because they can’t. Joe was brilliant at Celtic, he embraced it all in, and Fraser’s the same. It’s not like Burchy is going to start working with him this week. He’s been doing it for 18 months. That’s all we do at training. They get included in some of our passing drills, some of our possession drills. They’re in there, so they’re doing it. So that’s where I sit with that.”

Edgy fans are already scouring the list of free agent keepers on the back of a recent report that the Vicario injury might force Spurs into accelerating their summer plans of signing a young backup keeper. Spurs may or may not target a new keeper in January, but Big Ange made it clear the club will not sign a free agent journeyman now for the sake of it.

“That’s not going to happen. That’s why we’ve got a squad of players here. I don’t think us signing a free agent now is going to help us.

“If I hadn’t named Fraser in the Europa squad, then jeez that would’ve been a radical decision, and you’re left with two, again they wouldn’t be able to play in Europe, then you kind of look at it. Unless something else happened, that’s why we’ve got four goalkeepers. There’s young Luca but to be fair he’s been injured so he’s not really ready. Fraser I’ve known for a long time and he’s such a strong character within the group and ready to play. Brandon’s improving all the time and Alfie’s been at the club for a while. Whenever they’ve been asked, in terms of the training capacity they bring, we’re happy with what we’ve got...

“January, we’re always working towards the next window of what the best scenario is for us, and a lot of that will depend on where we’re at from the squad perspective and the game’s perspective. Just this injury doesn’t change any plans for January.”

Vicario joins Richarlison, Micky van de Ven, Wilson Odobert, Cuti Romero, and Mikey Moore on the injured list; all are dealing with physical injuries except for Moore, who has been suffering from a particularly pernicious (but undisclosed) virus over the past few weeks.

Tottenham will trigger one-year extension clause in Ben Davies’ contract

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Like Son Heung-Min, Ben Davies has been at Tottenham Hotspur for a decade. And also like Son Heung-Min, the club respects him deeply and will keep him on for another year. Jack Pitt-Brooke at The Athletic is reporting that Tottenham is planning to exercise a clause in Davies’ contract that will keep him at the club for a further year, through the 2025-26 season.

The club did something similar with Son, whose contract also was set to expire at the end of this current season. Now, they’ll have the benefit of both veteran players, themselves best friends and the last two players from the Mauricio Pochettino era, as Ange Postecoglou continues to strengthen his side going forward.

Davies is a beloved figure amongst fans and at the club. He’s been a stalwart presence over the past decade, and while he’s considered a reserve player these days he’s been relied upon during injury crises over the past two seasons and has performed exceptionally well when called. In The Athletic, Pitt-Brooke notes how Davies not only comes in to do a job at left back and center back, but has worked hard to adapt his game to play the way Ange Postecoglou demands of his defense.

I said recently in an article how I’ve been surprised at how capable Davies has been when he’s been asked to play — he’s put in a number of extremely solid performances both at LB and CB this season and last, and I need to stop being surprised by that fact. By extending Davies, Spurs keep a valuable “glue guy” in the squad and is a reflection of his status as a hard-working, dependable veteran player. Keeping Davies also means that Spurs may not need to focus quite as many resources in identifying and upgrading the defense, at least for one season.

It’s widely expected that whenever Davies hangs up his boots he’ll go into coaching — he’s already achieved UEFA A and Elite Youth A Licenses and it would shock nobody if, at the end of his contract, he decides to take up a position with Tottenham’s academy as a means of entering the managerial marketplace.

The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur news and links for Wednesday, November 27

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good morning!

Thanksgiving is almost here! Can you feel it in the air? How many pecan pies have you had? Be honest (I’ve had four little ones).

Christmas season always comes before Thanksgiving, but I think it really comes in earnest the days afterwards. When I was a kid, my parents would occassionally take my siblings and me to the cinema to watch a Christmas film. Those were fond memories.

But for all these wonderful Christmas movies, we shouldn’t overlook films to get us in the Thanksgiving spirit. That’s why I’m doing a pre-Thanksgiving post. To give you all a chance to watch a Thanksgiving film before the big day (or on the big day, after Spurs-Roma).

That film is Planes, Trains and Automobiles starring Steve Martin and John Candy.

This is one of my favourite holiday films of all time. I first watched it on Thanksgiving 2017 when I was living in London. Tucked in my tiny room, I turned on the flm and was hugely happy with what I chose.

The film follows advertising exec Neal Page, on his way home from New York to spend Thanksgiving with his family in Chicago. But he keeps bumping into this loudmouth guy named Mr Bryant, and the two eventually wind up in Kansas because of a huge snowstorm.

What ensues is a lovely and hilarious road-trip film with the two as they form a very lovely friendship.

All that’s to say, I watched Gladiator II tonight. Denzel Washington was spectacular and Matt Lucas (I know, right?) was a surprise treat. The film itself was good-not-great. The random cackles of some moviegoers during the film was also unpleaseant. Wondering if I should’ve wastch Planes, Trains and Automobiles instead.

I’ll watch it tomorrow.

Enjoy your pre-thanksgiving (or generic Thursday, all you non-Americans).

Fitzie’s track of the day: All In My Head, by The Linda Lindas

And now for your links:

Jack P-B ($$): Might be hardest time to stop ‘wild swings in mood and form’

Dan KP: Tottenham gamble backfires with Vicario injury

The match everyone’s talking about: Norwich City beat Plymouth 6-1

Steve Martin picks his favourite character from his career

Spurs could prioritize new keeper after Vicario ruled out until February

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I learned a few things this morning since finding out Guglielmo Vicario had ankle surgery after Tottenham Hotspur’s 4-0 win over Manchester City on Saturday. The first is that Vicario apparently played 60 gol-danged minutes on a broken ankle, making five saves which is INSANE and I’m still wondering how he did it.

The other thing I learned is that he is not expected to return to the Tottenham squad until February, which both feels like not that long and also is a REALLY REALLY LONG TIME when you consider the number of matches he’ll miss. And for that reason, according to Standard journalist Dan Kilpatrick, Spurs are now considering moving up their timeline for a new keeper to this coming January’s transfer window.

Kilpatrick writes that Spurs had planned on bringing in “younger competition for Vicario” this past summer, but for whatever reason that never happened, and Tottenham went into the season with 36-year-old reserve Fraser Forster and 25-year-old academy product Brandon Austin to round out the keeper corps. (Alfie Whiteman is there too, ostensibly to help with homegrown/club-trained numbers). The club was hoping to wait until this summer to find a younger backup for Vicario to replace Forster, but that timeline might now have to be moved up until January.

It’s a little hard to overstate how significant it is to miss Vicario at this present point in time. Forster is a nice guy, a veteran Premier League keeper, and someone who has the proven ability to make good stops as he’s shown already in the Europa League this season. But he’s not mobile, he’s pretty bad with the ball at his feet, he’s downright awful in penalty kick situations, and he’s definitely NOT a good fit with the kind of tactics Ange Postecoglou wants to play with this Spurs side. Taking out Vicario and replacing him with Forster is... well, it’s not great. And whatever we as fans think about Brandon Austin, it’s become clear the club doesn’t feel the same way we do about his potential considering he hasn’t seen any match action since the preseason tour to Asia.

Spurs do have other options. They could sign a free agent keeper as they have the squad room, though the pickings are slim with only 37-year-old Costa Rican star Keylor Navas a notable option. There are other keepers (including, lol, Hugo Lloris) whose contracts expire on December 31 that Spurs could look at as a stop-gap measure. Or Spurs could look to see who’s available on the market in January, possibly an English, homegrown player.

The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur news and links for Tuesday, November 26

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good morning

ESPN’s happy-hour lineup appears to be in line for a major shakeup.

The New York Post first reported last week that one of the network’s bellweather programmes - Around the Horn - will be cancelled next year, putting to an end the show’s 20-plus-year run.

It’s a startling decision. I have no memory of what ESPN was like before ATH. That and Pardon the Interruption fuelled by interest in sports and were huge influences on me wanting to be a sports journalist. I once wanted to be “the next Woody Page” (lol).

There wasn’t much detail on why the show is being cancelled, according to the article. And I guess since ESPN hasn’t confirmed it, there’s still a chance it might survive. But who knows. There’s tonnes of smoke.

Truth is, I wonder if I’ll even miss it.

I used to devour this show, coming home every day from school to watch the voices from journalists around the country. For those unfamiliar, ATH features four sports journalists (mostly from regional newspapers) to discuss topics and be awarded points seemingly at the whim of host Tony Reali.

But I’ve seen a notable shift in recent years that left the show for me palatable during the best of times and unbearable during the worst. Most times, it fell towards the latter.

The programme binned its ultra fun “lightning round”. condensing the content far too much. And then it had that weird augmented reality where there might be fire and money pop up behind a panelist. What purpose does this serve?

But the biggest change has been the panelists. I think ATH thrived because it represented reporters from America’s sports hubs - Los Angeles, Boston, Dallas, Washington DC, Chicago.

What separated this from other sports shows is that it featured beat writers with in-depth knowledge of their market and the teams within it. I can’t think of another major sports news programme that does that. These days it’s just random hot takes and dudes in tank tops.

Now? It’s a stomping ground for ESPN’s trained personalities, each hoping and trying out for larger spots on the network. Few (Mina Kimes, Pablo Torre, Sarah Spain) actually add anything interesting.

Which is weird because ESPN has diluted the format that made the show so interesting. It’s a shame, and I was upset long ago by this shift. Now, I don’t care so much.

ATH had a good run, especially in its peak. But that was long ago.

Now, to put it in the words of the late TJ Simers (one of the show’s original panelists) from 2003: “The show is unwatchable.”

Fitzie’s track of the day: Joy, by Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds

And now for your links:

Alasdair Gold with your latest loanee roundup

Dan KP: Ange Postecoglou handed a familiar problem after City win

The Atlhletic ($$): How Spurs created space for James Maddison on Saturday

Guglielmo Vicario undergoes ankle surgery, out indefinitely

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Why can’t we have good things? Two days after Tottenham Hotspur keeper Guglielmo Vicario put in a masterful shift, making five saves at the Etihad and helping Spurs to a 4-0 win over the four-time defending champions, we get devastating news from the club. As posted by Spurs on its website and social media channels, Vicario has undergone surgery to his ankle and will be out for an indefinite period of time.

I wish I were making this up.

So remember that little thing before halftime where Vic went down and got seen by Tottenham’s physios, and I gave him the Erik Lamela Shithouse Award because it was obviously him killing time and helping his team get to halftime with a 2-0 lead against arguably the most talented team in the Premier League? Well, I guess it wasn’t the dark arts after all.

We have no information about how long Googly Elmo will be out, so that means that the club is now in the (large, meaty) hands of Fraser Forster, a man who is big as an oak tree and just about as mobile. Brandon Austin will probably make the step up to second keeper and likely starter in the Europa League, possibly as soon as this Thursday.

Now, I’m being a little harsh — Forster has shown the ability to make quality stops in some of his appearances, but he’s way less mobile that Vic, and god help us if we ever get into a situation that calls for a penalty shootout. And this also means Tottenham will almost certainly need to be in the market for another keeper when the window opens on January 1.

This is a huge, HUGE blow to Tottenham’s ambitions this season. There’s just a huge drop-off from Vicario to all the keepers behind him, but there isn’t really anything we can do about it — Fraser Forster’s our guy from now until Vic is able to get healthy.

God. Ugh. Crap. This SUCKS.