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Athletic: Tottenham in talks with Bayern over Palhinha loan

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I know we’re all still flying after beating Arsenal in a preseason friendly North London Derby in Hong Kong and lifting another trophy (when will it get old hat? Not yet, clearly), so I’m sorry to barge in like the Kool-Aid Man with what might be considered bad news. But according to The Athletic, Tottenham Hotspur are currently in negotiations with Bayern Munich over a season long loan for 30-year-old midfield ball-winner Palhinha.

I say “bad news” but this actually represents an improvement over past rumors connecting Spurs with Palhinha who joined Bayern last summer and was so impactful the club is already desperate to get rid of him. Real talk: a loan is better than a purchase. You can cock your head, squint, and make an argument that loaning in an experienced midfielder who is legitimately good at winning the ball playing at the base of midfield is a good thing, even if that ball-winning destroyer can’t pass, dribble, or score. It’s just not a very GOOD argument.

Notably, the Athletic doesn’t mention whether this would be considered a “dry” loan (i.e. no purchase option or obligation) or not. If there’s a purchase option, then whatever — options are, well, optional. An obligation would make me mad, as it would mean we’d be spending real money to bring in a 30+ guy who I frankly don’t think is very good, but we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it.

I’m still not thrilled with this rumor and I think it represents a lack of vision and recruitment in the midfield by Johan Lange and his team, especially when we STILL don’t have any good midfield passing in the team. But a one year Palhinha loan wouldn’t make me want to break things at least. That’s pretty thin gruel, but I guess I’ll take it?

Arsenal 0-1 Tottenham Hotspur: Top 10 talking points

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Tottenham Hotspur continued a busy preseason in Hong Kong, taking on Arsenal for the first ever preseason North London derby. A fractious and intense match for a supposed friendly, a stout defense and stunning goal from Pape Matar Sarr saw Spurs through to a one goal victory.

Sarr’s goal was impressive; stepping up to pressure a pass out of the back from David Raya, he won possession around the halfway line before coolly slotting the ball over Raya from around 40 yards out. It was a lone moment of magic that made all the difference on the day.

Here’s my top ten talking points from Spurs’ first match on their Asia tour.

Though Frank has played some version of a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 in each preseason fixture, he has tinkered with the shape and lineup each time; and this match was no different. It was a classic 4-2-3-1 this time, but with Lucas Bergvall at the #10, and with more of the Brentford V2 split center backs, Romero and Van de Ven coming wide to create more passing angles through the middle. Maybe Frank isn’t quite sure of the best setup with this squad yet; or maybe it’s just an opportunity to drill the squad in different build-up patterns.

Hong Kong seems to have a fair few Arsenal fans. There’s no accounting for taste, I guess. It created a hostile atmosphere for Spurs though, with the Kai Tak crowd gasping and cheering every time Arsenal neared the Spurs penalty area. This, combined with the oppressive heat and humidity created something of a cauldron that the Lilywhites stood up to well.

Spurs often struggled to break into the penalty area through the match, lacking a creative presence around the box; however, they made up for that with some dangerous set pieces to create chances. Spurs hit the post more than once and came near to scoring on a small handful of occasions, and set piece routines were to thank, with the Lilywhites always looking a threat from dead ball situations. One chance in particular looked destined to be a goal, with Richarlison unluck to not quite reach the ball before it hit the post and ricocheted back off the Brazilian... but not into the goal.

Pape Matar Sarr struggled at times under Ange Postecoglou, but things are looking like they could be different under Frank. The Senegalese midfielder is more at home in Frank’s midfield structure, which has maximized his ground coverage and smart defensive interventions; plus there’s the fact that Sarr has now scored three of Spurs’ five goals so far this preseason. All of the above were on full display in his wondergoal in the first half, never mind the fact that there may have been a sneaky trip from Richarlison in there.

Early on in the match I was a little concerned that the referee may not be aware of the bad blood between the two clubs. Challenges were flying in right, left, and center, and the referee in general let a lot go that on any other day could have received more than just a whistle. The pace and quality of play, while not quite at the level you would see midway through a season, carried at the very least a modicum of excitement and focus about it that elevated the occasion.

Exploding into form midway through last season, Djed found his success largely playing on the left; however, when he switched back to his more “natural” right side, he seemed to struggle somewhat. This theme has continued in preseason, with Djed looking often unsettled in the matches thus far - but Destiny Udogie’s knee injury gave Spence a chance on the left once more. He was impressive, covering Bukayo Saka well in the first half and also getting forward to support the attack. Maybe he’s just more comfortable on that side?

One tactic we’ve seen more often under Frank than Postecoglou is the switch of play; even by players from whom you wouldn’t expect. Kudus, Sarr, and Odobert were among those outside of Spurs’ more natural passers of the ball who spotted an opportunity and quickly rocketed possession across the pitch - with surprising accuracy.

Mikel Arteta has been in trouble before for coming outside his technical area and encroaching on the pitch. You’d think he’d be more relaxed for a friendly, but no. Pedro Porro was having none of it. With Spurs having a throw in right on top of the Arsenal technical area, Spurs’ right back had no qualms about shoving the Arsenal manager back into his rightful position.

Brennan Johnson has both his supporters and detractors. It’s hard to deny his ability to get into goalscoring positions; but if Spurs aren’t in free flight, he can struggle to impact the match. This was no clearer than in this match, where he barely touched the ball. Frank was reportedly in for Johnson while the Welshman was still at Forest; maybe he can work some magic and help the winger round out his game a bit.

Thomas Frank seemed to take this match very seriously - both a good sign for Spurs’ preparation, and for his understanding of the club. While he could have used this match as an opportunity to blood further young players, he instead started a strong lineup that he pushed to spend as long on the pitch as possible, only making substitutes when players clearly tired or it made tactical sense. Not only did it push his players’ fitness, it also ensured Spurs got one over on Arsenal - a great morale boost heading into the season.

Screw it, we’re gonna win the league.

Arsenal vs. Tottenham Hotspur: game time, open thread, and how to watch friendly online

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Tottenham Hotspur are in Hong Kong for the next match of their preseason campaign: a (frankly quite odd) “friendly” against rivals Arsenal.

Here’s your open thread to jump in and chat.

COYS!

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How to Watch

Arsenal vs. Tottenham Hotspur (friendly)

Kai Tak Sports Park, Kowloon City, Hong Kong

Thursday, July 31, 2025

Time: 7:30 a.m. ET, 12:30 p.m. UK:

Not televised in USA or UK. Check international listings at livesoccertv.com

Streaming: SPURSPLAY, Amazon Prime US, CBS Sports Golazo, Paramount+

Match thread rules

The match thread rules are the same as always. To any visitors coming here for the first time, welcome! We’re glad you’re here! Wipe your feet, mind the gap, and be sure to check out the other pages at this outstanding site. While you’re here, though, we have a few rules and regulations:

Absolutely no links to illegal streams. They’re bad and they get us in trouble. Violators will be warned or banned.

We have rules against “relentless negativity.” Nobody likes a Negative Nancy. Don’t knee-jerk and post outlandish or hurtful things just because you’re frustrated.

Along those lines, outright abuse of players or match officials is also not allowed. It’s fine to say “wow, that was a really bad call,” but it’s NOT okay to direct copious amounts of abuse in the direction of said official over a call you did not like.

Treat other people in the match thread the way you would want someone else to treat your grandmother. Be nice. This is a community of fans, not an un-moderated message board.

NO SPIDERS!

Finally, while we don’t have a rule against profanity, please try and keep the naughty words in check. Also, language that is sexist, racist, transphobic, or homophobic in nature will be swiftly deleted and you will be immediately banned. This is an open, supportive community.

Have fun, and COYS!

The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur News and Links for Thursday, July 31

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Can you believe it? The EFL Championship kicks off in just over a week. And we at hoddle headquarters are seriously excited this year because Tottenham Hotspur Boy Ryan Mason will be on the touchline for West Brom.

The notable news on the managerial front from this month, though, was Marti Cifuentes making the switch from QPR to Leicester City. It’s certainly a loss for the London club, but I think they should still be right about midtable.

Other than that, attention turns towards the transfers. Birmingham made a few big signings with Demarai Gray (Al-Ettifaq), Kyogo Furuhashi (Rennes) and Kanya Fujimoto (Gil Vicente) as the Blues return to the second tier. From what I’m seeing out there, a fair amount of people are backing them to finish right around the playoffs or, at the worst, top 12.

WBA brought in some reinforcements for Mason including forward Aune Heggebo (Brann) for a 4.75m fee, Nat Phillips from Liverpool and centreback George Campbell from Montreal.

Meanwhile, Sheffield Wednesday’and Hull City’s futures are both in peril and both facing transfer embargoes.

One big loss for Wednesday was forward Josh Windass, who left the club for Wrexham on a free transfer. And manager Dani Rohl has also left the club by mutual consent.

Hoddle Headquarters are still going to be monitoring the transfer wires in the EFL Championship before releasing our predictions this year, so stay tuned.

Fitzie’s track of the day: Magic of Meghan, by Dry Cleaning

And nwo for your links:

The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur News and Links for Wednesday, July 30

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Welcome to another edition of Fitzie’s Fitzie’s Film and TV reviews, where your hoddler-in-chief reviews some of the things he’s seen on the television and in the cinema lately.

I wish I could say I’ve watched films in the cinema, but unfortunately the Landmark E Street Cinema has been closed for months now. This means that my favourite way of escaping the heat - by escaping into the downtown DC cinema - is no longer an option this summer. Brutal.

I only have a few films to review week, and it’s mostly golf related. I didn’t plan for it to be this way, it just happened. But you can thank The Phoenician Scheme for breaking up some of the sportiness.

Stick: In a previous edition of this series, I slated Stick as an obvious attempt by Apple to recreate the highs of Ted Lasso. But instead of Jason Sudeikis it’s Owen Wilson, and instead of football it’s golf.

The first six or seven episodes were pretty rough, I’m not going to lie. And I don’t know what I felt compelled to sit through them all. Everything about it was insufferable.

It slightly made up for it with a genuinely captivating final three episodes in which teen golf sensation Santiago Wheelers tees it up (lol) with the pros. I guess Apple liked it enough to renew it for a second season, but does that mean I have to watch it again?

Happy Gilmore 2: The highly anticipated follow-up to Adam Sandler’s 1996 film. I can’t say too much of the setup as that is spoils galore, but what I can say is that it is a pretty solid film.

There were a few challenges creating a sequel set so far after the original, one of which is to bring up newer audiences back up to speed. I think the film did that with just enough callbacks and flashbacks without it seeming forced.

It also features tonnes of golf cameos but the ones that stole it for me were Rory McIlroy, Bryson DeChambeau, Scottie Scheffler and Brooks Koepka. No one took themselves seriously, which definitely made up for their lack of acting chops.

However, I found the second half of the film to be less compelling than the first. I wasn’t so interested in this good guy/bad guy dynamic as I was in the first film. It was almost 1996 meets 2096, and for that the pacing felt a little off.

The Phoenician Scheme: I so wanted to enjoy this one more. There are some beautifully shot scenes, including Benicio del Toro in the bathtub during the opening credits. Michael Cera is also splendid in his role.

I think this film would’ve worked a lot more if it focused on del Toro and Mia Threapleton’s characters, as it is rewarding to see how they evolve throughout the movie. But there’s so much gunk around it - that’s totally on all the A-listers associated with this.

Scarlett Johansson, Bill Murray, Tom Hanks, Bryan Cranston, Benedict Cumberbatch and Willem Dafoe all make appearances in this film and they don’t even comprise the entire ensemble. It’s just too many big names and not enough substance.

Fitzie’s track of the day: Silver Lining, by Rilo Kiley

And now for your links:

Alasdair Gold: “New Tottenham injury scares in training and who was missing from session ahead of Arsenal game”

The Telegraph: “Bryan Mbeumo: Manchester United project convinced me to reject Newcastle and Spurs”

ATHLETIC: Tottenham Hotspur not pursuing Rodrygo

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We’ve written two articles about Real Madrid attacker Rodrygo Goes and the numerous links in the Spanish media to Tottenham Hotspur. The first one was a Bat Country takedown from Sean, the second was more of a Kombucha Girl follow-up from me.

Well, as expected we can put this one to bed. A series of tweets from various outlets came out yesterday evening to rubbish any connection between Rodrygo and Spurs, and The Athletic is also confirming it — not only is Rodrygo not into Tottenham, Spurs aren’t even really looking to reinforce at that position.

Then there is the left side of defence, which has needed reinforcements for some time. Kyle Walker-Peters has signed for West Ham United. There have been reports in Spain linking Spurs with Real Madrid’s Rodrygo, but that is not a position that Tottenham are focusing on.

— Jack Pitt-Brooke, The Athletic

I mean, of course they aren’t. I wish I didn’t have to spill so much digital ink over this particular rumor, especially since it seemed so ridiculous from the get-go. But Tottenham did sign Rafael van der Vaart that one time and ever since there’s that little part in the back of your brain that goes “ok, but WHAT IF?”

But yeah. Not happening. Time to put it to bed. This was almost certainly Rodrygo’s agent yapping to whoever would listen to create a market for his client. And as we’ve seen, no other English club is as big a transfer stalking horse as Tottenham Hotspur Football Club.

Thomas Frank clarifies injuries to Takai, Udogie

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Tottenham Hotspur are currently in Hong Kong and preparing for the first stop of their Asia tour — a preseason friendly against arch-rivals Arsenal. Shortly after landing, Spurs manager Thomas Frank gave an interview to the assembled media about the upcoming match, transfer plans, Morgan Gibbs-White, and squad injuries.

Of all of it, the injuries were the most interesting. Tottenham left a number of players at home in this one, including Dejan Kulusevski, Radu Dragusin, and Manor Solomon. Two late additions to the scratch list were Destiny Udogie, who pulled out of Spurs’ friendly last week after he “felt something” in warm-up, and new signing Kota Takai, who either arrived at preseason with an injury or did something in training.

Frank gave a short update on both Destiny and Takai, and welp, the news could be better.

“Kota’s got plantar fascia unfortunately. I don’t know exactly the scale of it, weeks. Destiny has got a knee injury that we are assessing at the moment that just kept him out of the pre-season tour. When we know more, we will update more.”

Ugh. As anyone who has ever been a runner and suffered from it can tell you, plantar fasciitis is a nasty injury that can take a long time to heal. Frank’s assessment of “weeks” is both unfortunate and probably pretty likely. That’s not a great sign for Takai and again probably leaves Spurs short handed on the defensive end to begin the Premier League season.

As for Destiny, we don’t know the extent of the knee injury he’s suffering from, but hopefully it isn’t too bad. It’s bad enough that he was left back in London while the rest of the squad jets off to Hong Kong and Seoul, but maybe that ends up being a good thing? It will allow Djed Spence, Ben Davies and Pedro Porro to get extra minutes, and it also probably means first team preseason minutes at left back for Jamie Donley, who could use them.

Elsewhere, Frank talked a little about Mikey Moore, who is expected to finalize a season-long loan to Glasgow Rangers in the Scottish Premier League very soon. Frank suggested that a loan to a club at the top of its league like Rangers and the first team opportunities it provides will be very good for Moore’s development.

“It is very important. Mikey is a big talent. I’m really excited about his future here at Tottenham. I think for all players but especially younger players they need consistent first-team football into their bodies. I think if we can find the right option we will do that.“

Tottenham’s preseason friendly against Arsenal kicks off this Thursday at 7:30 a.m. in Hong Kong. The match is not broadcast or streamed in the UK apart from on SpursPLAY, Tottenham’s in-house streaming service, but will be streamed on both Paramount+ and CBS Sports Golazo in the United States.

Czech sources rubbish Kinsky to Lille loan rumors

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A few days ago you might have seen rumors floating around the Spurs-o-sphere linking Tottenham Hotspur with an inexplicable loan to Lille in Ligue 1. The idea was pretty straight forward — Lille just sold their starting keeper, Lucas Chevalier, to PSG in a deal worth €40m, and hence are on the lookout for a new starter between the sticks. Kinsky was mooted as an option — he’s a talented young keeper who, the thought was, is stuck behind Guglielmo Vicario at Tottenham. So let’s get him in on loan!

This is stupid for a couple of reasons. First, Tottenham are in four competitions including the Champions League, and injuries happen so there’s going to be plenty of competitions and opportunities not only for Kinsky to play, but also to push Vicario for a starting job. Secondly, while letting Kinsky go out on loan would mean first team, every week football for the 23-year old Czech keeper, it would mean if something happened to Vicario, Tottenham’s keeper options would be Brandon Austin and U21 keeper Luca Gunter.

Not great! Thankfully, according to a source from Kinsky’s home country, it’s all bogus.

Stephan Kubin, writing for Infotbal.cz, say that there are no negotiations between Tottenham and any other club happening at the moment, which makes sense considering Kinsky is currently in Hong Kong with the rest of Spurs preparing for a ridiculous preseason friendly against Arsenal.

What about after the tour? “Nothing can be ruled out,” says the article, but they view it as incredibly unlikely, considering how much it would weaken Tottenham at the keeper position, and that it’s hard to imagine a scenario where they would allow Kinsky to leave the club on loan.

Look, it makes sense that the French media might grasp onto a fleeting rumor about a French club that just sold its starting keeper to the league giants might be interested in bringing in Spurs’ No. 2. That would make a lot of good sense for Lille. The problem is it doesn’t make a lick of sense for Tottenham, even if Kinsky wanted the move. Calling it right now — this doesn’t happen. And if I’m wrong about this, then I’m going to have some serious concerns about what kind of operation Johan Lange is running over there.

The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur News and Links for Tuesday, July 29

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Another week has gone and we’re now without two incredible sporting events: the women’s Euros and the Tour de France.

Even though I don’t bicycle (because of a near-death experience as a child), I love watching the Tour de France. I can’t relate to the athleticism required to win, but nonetheless I tune in each morning when the race starts.

What is it? The hundred-plus cyclists, the rainbow of jerseys (not to be mistaken for the rainbow jersey), the thousands of fans that line the street, or is it gorgeous scenary from the mountains to the dramatic finish in Paris?

Either way, the tournament always brings out some incredible photos. Here are just three I liked from the final couple days:

Stage 20

I wish I could find the original source for this image, but I came up unlucky whilst scrolling through Jered Gruber’s instagram. He’s got some incredible pictues on there, but this one looks insane. I remember Stage 20 being particularly brutal.

Ivan Romeo

You might find it hard to believe by looking at this picture, but Spanish champion Ivan Romeo completed this stage (again Stage 20) and the tour itself.

Romeo was part of the lead group during a very wet Stage 20 from Nantuato to Pontarlier, and suffered a nasty crash while rounding a bend. It seemed his bicycle just lost traction and Romeo could be seen sliding on the pavement and colliding hard with the curb.

He looked pretty beat up and it wasn’t known at the time if he’d be able to continue. Thankfully he did, and the above picture is him after crossing the finish line.

The climb up Monmartre

Tour organisers altered the final day of the course this year. Instead of the traditional loops around Paris, this stage featured a new route.

Aside from the rain, it paid off in divdends. Wout Van Aert broke past Tour de France winner Tadej Pogacar to win the stage and we were given an incredible view of the Côte de la Butte Montmartre.

Fitzie’s track of the day: Trans-Europe Express, by Kraftwerk

And now for your links:

The Athletic ($$): “If Spurs aren’t signing Morgan Gibbs-White, who are the closest alternatives?”

The Standard: “Tottenham XI vs Arsenal: Confirmed team news, predicted lineup and injury latest for pre-season friendly”

BBC: “Morecambe suspended from the National League”

REPORT: LAFC now “advancing” talks to sign Son Heung-Min

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Son Heung-Min may or may not be a Tottenham Hotspur player when Spurs kick off the Premier League season in August, and that hasn’t been decided yet. But now it sure seems like we know what one of the options is. Ben Jacobs and Tom Bogert are reporting that Los Angeles FC (LAFC) are “advancing talks” to bring Son from the Premier League to MLS this summer, though naturally any move would take place after Spurs’ preseason tour to Asia.

So this rumor is not new — we’ve known about LAFC’s interest in Sonny for a few weeks now. What is new is that the club is now in active negotiations. That not only says that LAFC have interest in Son (lots of clubs probably have interest in Sonny) but that Spurs are potentially open to whatever small transfer fee LAFC would be willing to spend for him.

That’s significant, and probably plays into Spurs’ willingness to let Sonny determine how he wants to end his own career. The above report states that Son would prefer an MLS move to one to Saudi Arabia, and that talks will take place between Son and Thomas Frank to go over his role in Spurs’ squad this coming season. There’s willingness to keep Sonny and let him depart on a free transfer when his contract expires, but Spurs wouldn’t stand in his way should he want to leave now for a new opportunity on a different continent.

The article states that LAFC are close to agreeing personal terms with Son as a Designated Player. Meanwhile, the unnamed Saudi Arabian club would offer as much as $40m for Son, should he decide he was willing to play football in the Middle East for a couple of years.

I don’t think we have enough information to know what Sonny wants to do or what he will do; that will likely emerge when the club gets back from South Korea. I do think if Spurs wanted to prioritize maximizing profit on Sonny’s transfer fee then there’s little chance they’d consider a move to MLS, which has a league-wide record transfer fee of $22m. LAFC has never spent more than $11.4m for a player before.

But as I’ve stated before, Sonny has done something no other Tottenham club captain has done in nearly five decades — delivered a European title. He is forever a club legend, deserves a statue outside of White Hart Lane, and has earned the right to make whatever decision he feels is the best for his career. We’ll probably know before too long what he wants to do.